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MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 2:00am PST
the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big news of the day, and isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is. it is prp's way of saying, look, vote on his basic proposal, the proposal that will extend
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 6:00pm PST
austerity way too quickly. president obama is not asking for that much in taxes. it's worth getting a bit of perspective in here. you'll be shocked to know, we got a graph for that. here's what happens if we go over the cliff. you get more than $5 trillion in tax increases off the bat. and now here's what happens if we pass the sainted simpson bowles plan. you've heard of the plan. they have 2.6 trillion in tax increases. president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republi
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 11:00am PST
extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane katrina and despite all of these, they are unwilling to raise them to support and fund our government. what does it say about the dysfunctionality? >> we will have to leave it there. happy holidays to you. joining me now on the phone, congressman gregory meeks. congressman, i just saw you downstairs in the lobby about two or three hours ago and you were waiting on a phone call to determine when you might have to go back to d.c. to hammer out fiscal cliff matters. have you gotten the call yet? >> we are still waiting. >> no word as to when you guys are going back? no sense of urgency? >> i think there is a sense of urgencey and we have to have a deal.
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
taxes are only days away unless congress acts. one step forward, two steps back. president obama and republican lawmakers have been dancing that waltz for six weeks now, but the music stops when the countdown clock at the bottom of your screen runs out. so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the big sticking point, taxes. of course, democrats and president obama have called f
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 9:00am PST
agreement on the estate tax. sticking points remain. president obama seemed resigned to going over the cliff. >> if all else fails, if republicans do, in fact, decide to block it so that taxes on middle class families do, in fact, go up on january 1st, then on january 4th the first bill to be introduced on the floor will be to cut taxes on middle class families. >> and this morning former white house spokesman robert gibbs was even more blunt. >> the republicans simply can't utter the word yes. they cannot utter the word yes. i mean, i feel like it's -- i feel like you're talking to a 5-year-old, and, you know, you're saying, look, you have to eat your vegetables. the 5-year-old says, ah, you know, maybe. i will eat half of them, and you say will you eat a quarter of them? i will eat a quarter of them. >> out of control 5-year-old. still, the senate is back at it today trying to resolve the impasse. while the two sides seem to be nearing an accord on taxes, they continue to battle over republican attempts to make social security cost of living cuts or chain cpi. it led to this bit of s
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 1:00am PST
congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy.
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 3:00am PST
would be able to hock it, some amount of taxes, which will be smaller than what president obama wanted, but will come separate from spending cuts, at least at the outset, and another set of negotiations after the new year, that will have spending cuts and taxes in it. it seems to me that that's a recipe for republicans to end up getting a lot more in taxes than they would have got in all with an up-front deal. are your colleagues worried about that at all, or are you? >> first of all, you're enlightening me on something i'm not aware of. that was not the conversation i had with my colleagues across the aisle and that wasn't the conversation i had with the minority leader. so you have information that i don't have. look, you can't solve the problem with taxes. you have to do both. this country is in trouble, fiscally and financially as well as ratings. and if we don't do something significant, we'll see another rating cut. and there'll come a time when the interest costs, we cannot afford. so the question comes is, what is the best thing we can do now, given the political dynamics that
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 2:00pm PST
what president obama and speaker boehner want. president obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our viewers what it really means to go over the
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 2:30am PST
did nothing, they'd be going up on everyone. >> reporter: the senate voted to reverse today's tax hikes on 98% of americans. but to keep the higher rate on families making over $450,000. president obama took credit for breaking 20 years of gop opposition to tax hikes. >> keep in mind that just last month, republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. >> reporter: five senate republicans voted no. >> middle class families will wake up today to the assurance their taxes won't go up $2,200 each. >> reporter: not so fast. house speaker john boehner and his gop lawmakers might not go along. boehner sent house members home to celebrate the new year without a vote to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> listen, this is disgusting. and everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the economy could still take a hit. while the house takes up maybe later today whether to follow the senate's lead and hike taxes on the wealthy. from capitol hill, steve handelsman, nbc news. bill, back to you. >> reaction to the senate's move was swift as ma
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 9:00am PST
turned to tax increases, obama has already moved from, again the last public real offer $355 billion while boehner's moved only $150 billion. less than half. and then finally, and i want to go to you to unpack this. the stimulus money. this is not to be forgotten. we are in a recession. and many economists say that whatever else you do with long-term entitlement reform which is real, another real thing is growing the economy. obama has moved $250 billion. the number that boehner has moved on that stimulus is zero from the last final comprehensive offer. what do you make of that pacting that we are not mere the 50-yard line anymore? >> we also add that not only has boehner month moved, he can't get his own caucus to vote on the plan he brought forward. we are not only talking about symbolic gestures here, we are talking about someone that not only has not been able to deliver his own votes but isn't particularly interested in working with nancy pelosi to get moderate democrats onboard. again, we are talking about very symbolic things. i think john boehner is far more interested in pre
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 11:00am PST
effect. president obama on friday saying he would accept a deal as long as it does not allow taxes to go up on middle class americans, as long as it extends unemployment insurance and lays the groundwork for deficit reduction in the future. so there's sort of scaling back their expectations. house speaker boehner tried to get an alternative bill passed through the house last week. that failed. the focus shifts to the senate. reid and mcconnell will really be charged with trying to hammer out the fine details of that deal that can make it through the senate and through the house so that is the challenge moving forward. of course, president obama here in hawaii for his christmas cray case. he played some golf over the weekend. also, attended the memorial service for the late senator daniel inouye. thomas, on a much lighter note, he asked me had i taken my flip flops out last hour. i hadn't but i did since my work is wrapping up for you guys, flip flops are out and i'm ready to join those folks on the beach behind me. >> i'm very proud of you. i don't want to jinx this by talking about w
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 8:00pm PST
solutions to each of the fiscal cliff issues. on taxes president obama's offer compromise, agreeing to $400,000 as the new cutoff point. speaker boehner tried to sell a million as the dividing line but couldn't get it past his own party. president obama is therefore offering his original position, $250,000 and below. on spending cuts president obama proposed $1.2 trillion, about equal to what he was asking in revenue. boehner passed draconian spending cuts in the house with no revenue component. on extended unemployment insurance, another check for the president. nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question,
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 8:00pm PST
the budget control act. this deals with the issue of taxes, something that president obama has been talking since 2008. campaigned on this issue in 2012, and the third part will be that march trifecta, when you are going to have both the budget to deal with as well as the debt ceiling and the sequester issue, which will come back again, those are some of the details my colleague, chuck todd, gotten from inside that meeting with the senate democratic caucus. we expect president obama to be briefed on that meeting as well. vice president biden played a key role in negotiations. i am getting details from democratic source who's say the president has played an important role as well. working the phones. apparently last night after vice president biden had spoken to mcconnell, he, the president, a number of staffers met from 1:00 a.m. until 1:45 and sort of hammered out the final details of this deal and then their staffers were up until way past 3:30 this morning. this is something that has been going on overnight while a lot of people have been sloping on the white house and that is th
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 2:00pm PST
house at least as a tax cut, not a rise in taxes? >> chuck schumer brought up a good point. a key moment of these entire negotiations came on wednesday night when president obama calls mitch mcconnell, bring the republican leader in the process. what happens now is very important. as sam said, they'll be negotiating today and over the weekend in the senate. and if this $250,000 comes to the floor, if a few republicans attach themselves to what reid and obama agree to, then that means when it pose gophers to the house it has a much better chance of attracting republican support. if mitch mcconnell aligns republicans and tells everyone to oppose it in the senate republican conference, the chances of it succeeding in the house are pretty low. >> sam, is this the end of the road for grover norquist and his pledge? >> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other conservative groups say no. i think grover's pl
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 12:00pm PST
unemployment benefits and payroll tax and up for discussion, as well. i think in obama's proposal, he wasn't moving as much on the dividend tax as a compromise but, you know, that never settled at the end of the day. >> all right. enjoy that 4.2% payroll tax rate while it lasts. >> absolutely. >>> up next, freedom of speech with the right to bear arms. that's in the spin cycle. >>> amber and marcy and paul started north carolina based footsteps clothing which had a booming christmas themed pajama line. not wanting to be just a seasonal business, they added other holidays and eventually expanded to products that celebrate family life. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replacement. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask one of our insurance experts about it today. hello?! we believe our customers do their best out there in the world, and we do everything we can to be t
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 11:00pm PST
think obama was saying to boehner look, i don't need to give that. >> $700 billion just for getting the middle class tax through. just for that. yeah. >> this is what he told his members in the congress. because of stories like this, that can paint the picture to the voters that obama's not playing ball. >> trying to explain this to somebody from pluto. say in australia now. saying when congress wrote the cliff, defined it, spend cuts, increases on income, tax increase on state. they wrote it up as this horrible thing that nobody would want to face. either side, right? they designed it that way. now they're walking right over that cliff. over niagra falls. explain. >> it's like congress is on pluto and we're all on earth. they say they want deficit reduction. if you go over the cliff, you get deficit reduction, you just don't get it in the responsible, accountable way. it's like chopping off on arm. >> like says i want a shower, i'm going to niagra falls. >> they still can't get it done. we're dysfunctional. no other explanation. >> i think they can stop the roller coaster and make
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 10:00am PST
that bridged in this year? can it be bridged? >> yes, it can. both president obama and speaker boehner have already begun to do a principle compromise. speaker boehner said i'm ready to raise taxes on those over a million dollars. president obama said i'm ready to have a new type of chain to consumer price index which -- impacts entitlement reform. the bipartisan national debt commission, simpson-bowles commission, said for every dollar of spending reduction, including the entitlement reform we immediate to have $1 in tax revenue. that's the principle compromise we have to have. so they are not far off. what we have to have is very simple. $4 trillion in debt reduction by this one-third, two-third division. because that gives us a sustainable debt to gdp ratio so the economy can go booming again. so i believe those two men have the economies of our nation best at heart and have to come a little closer and a little $500 billion sounds like a lot. $2.5 trillion. we have to do both to have a principled come prom nice quickly, both of you, i start with you, do you think something g
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 11:00am PST
. that's the final sticking point in the final hours of these negotiations. you heard president obama concede this is not a perfect deal. he said he wanted a big deal that dealt with both tax reform and deficit reduction. you also heard him talk about the fact that the new revenues would be hundreds of billions of dollars. what he initially wanted was about $1.6 trillion so this is a compromise on his part, as well. republicans initially coming, raising their offer so they kind of came to the middle on that point. but, again, the one sticking point that remains, the sequester and what negotiators continue to hammer out. vice president biden playing a key role in the negotiations having served more than 30 years in the senate. he knows how these types of negotiations get done. really, better than anyone. he, mitch mcconnell with whom he has a strong relationship, trying to take it to the finish line. >> i guess that's something given how many sticking points we were up against before. thank you so much. >> reporter: thanks. >> any deal from the 11th hour talks will be rushed through bo
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 9:00am PST
the last three years of the obama administration, on the budget, on deficit, on tax cuts years ago. they came together before christmas. it's hard to see how this works out at this point, to tell you the truth. there is a conference call at 2:30 among house republicans trying to decide what to do. we expect the leadership to let the rank and file know what their plans are. the speaker is not in washington. we understand he is in ohio of his home state. the president has landed here back at the white house in washington. it's unclear exactly where they go from here. essentially what john boehner is saying, you go first, harry reid. harry reid is trying to jam mitch mcconnell into allowing this vote to go forward without the 60-vote threshold, something that's necessary for virtually every vote here in the senate and mitch mcconnell says it's time for president obama to lead. the threshold question is, can something pass the house of representatives? can john boehner put something on the floor that needs the majority of democrat support that will not get republican support and none t
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 6:00am PST
boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number killed a deal. >> if you are buying a house or a car and one person said look, i'm going at $1 billion. usually split the difference and do the deal. this time around, that didn't happen. neither was hoping for this. if house republicans couldn't go for that million dollar threshold, they are not going to go for 400,000
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 10:00am PST
weekend. president obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let'
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 2:00pm PST
. now, democrats say, okay, we're getting a big concession with the $400,000, but president obama is smart in this case. he's going to get the tax threshold that he wants from republicans, and instead of giving them the cuts he had already promised boehner in the talks before, upwards of $1 trillion in social security and medicare, he can come back around and do that during the debt limit negotiations so he's essentially going to win out. remains to be seen whether or not that holds true and whether or not we get to your broader point, the country wants to go through another one of these in just a few months. >> luke russert, thank you. mike viqueira, kristin welker. help new year. >> happy new year. >>> when we come back, the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. we just learned doctors found that blood clot in the space between her brain and the skull, behind her right ear. doctors say it did not result in a stroke but nbc news' robert bazell will be here with us. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in chin
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 1:00am PST
budgets and can't get one vote for any of his budgets. boehner will be tip o'neill. obama needs to be ronald reagan. would i vote for revenues, including tax rate hikes, even though i don't like them to save the country from becoming greece but i'm not going to set aside the 1.2 trillion in cuts. any hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea that we could protect 99% of americans from a tax increase. boehner's plan b i thought made as soon as. to my republican kcolleagues, te the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a good day. i lime simpson-bowles. the president is going to get tax rate hikes. to my republican colleagues, if we can protect 99% of the public from a tax hike that, is not a tax increase in my book. chuck, maybe you and me and some other people in the senate can find a way to find this on the short term but on the long term there's not going to be a deal any time soon. >> you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. the big chance a
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal. the gop leadership has not yet called their members back to d.c. and will not be in session tomorrow for legislative business. according to one gop aide, they felt it's up to the democrats to act now. so the christmas spirit has not softened actions. but what has softened? customer confidence. in the last week gallup found the drop in the likelihood congress will come to a deal. also holiday spending hit its lowest rate since the 2008 recession. whil
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 10:00pm PST
save americans from a tax hike. >> the gallup poll shows 54% approve of how president obama is handling the vote, 26% approve of how speaker boehner is handling negotiations. 45% democratic leaders approve and 26% gop leaders approve of how they're handling the situation. chief washington correspondent and political writer for the "new york times," and robert reich. he's also the author of "beyond outrage." john, you can tell us all the maneuverings and meetings that have gone on all day between the house administration and their staff. just catch us up on everything, john, all the big news that happened today. >> right here, lawrence. nothing. nothing happened. but i have to say, though, i'm still with bill crystal and that 50% tooth fairy crowd in thinking the republican leadership in the senate and then, as a result of that, in the house are going to decide that they've already taken enough punishment. the punishment will get worse after january 1st and that ultimately they will accept, at least temporarily, perhaps not as a permanent solution, but at least temporarily, the
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 12:00pm PST
? >> where they agree on things like corporate rate and that tax reform. and also immigration reform. >> and stephanie, let me put it a slightly different way. how long does president obama's second term last? second terms don't last four years sometimes. domestically. >> they last four years but there is a shelf life to what you can get done because people are going to start looking at the midterms pretty quickly. 2013 is a very important year to get things done, tax reform, immigration reform, we have to finish implementing the health care law a year from right now, people are going to be signing up for exchanges in states all over the country. >> what do you -- >> we don't know if barack obama is a liberal, moderate, debating that four years, six years. next year, we will know what -- >> a pragmatic. >> an ideologue at times? we will know. >> i'm going to put you on the spot. >> i'm ready. >> mcauliffe. the big race of 2013, which by the way will dominate the washington media market, mcauliffe and cuccinelli. >> going off to -- >> does he win? >> cuccinelli, he wins, 2016? >> the
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 8:00am PST
, something to prevent taxes going up, and also lay the groundwork potentially for deficit reduction in the future. i think you will see president obama cut his vacation short, and continue to play a role in those negotiations. richard. >>> kristin, over the weekend, he attended the funeral for the late senator inouye, who he has called an inspiration to him. what did you see in that service? >> well, more than 20 members of congress attended, mostly democrats, majority leader harry reid spoke and praised senator inouye for his partisan spirit, reaching across the aisle. of course in an earlier memorial service, the president called the late senator his earlier inspiration, on a a lot of members of congress came together to pay their respects. >> thank you, kristin. >>> if congress and the president fail to reach a deal, the impact is as unlikely as immediate as the term "fiscal cliff" seems to imply. the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 milli
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 5:00am PST
senate deal, president obama is warning republicans that if they want future spending cuts, they're going to have to provide more tax revenue as well. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone -- and you hear that sometimes coming from them, that sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's going to be the formula for how we solve this thing, then they've got another think coming. >> that midday news conference didn't go over well with a lot of republicans, and they said that the president's sometimes mocking tone, as they felt it was, could hurt the fiscal cliff deal in the house. >> as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to saddened. we have the president of the united states go over and have a cheerleading ridiculing of republicans exercise. >> let's bring in democratic strategist and former edwards communications director chris ka fiance and republican strategist and former huckabee campai
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 4:00am PST
hours away zip like pbs, i love big bird. i'll call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. i've been in business for 25 years. have i no idea what you're talking about. >> where was obama tonight? he went in there disarmed. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> you'll get your chance in a moment. i'm still speaking that wasn't a question, that was a statement. >> i don't look at my pension. it's not as big as yours. >> you said in the rose garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror. >> let me call it an act of terror -- >> can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> hi a binder full of women. >> we also have fewer horses and bayonets. >> here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy. i missed you all these last few years. >> if you can't change washington from inside the white house, then let's get you the plane ticket back to chicago you've earned. >> don't move. vote. voting is the best revenge. >> i ask people to vote for the love of country. >> it is election day, america. >> today's a huge day? >> yes, people are choosing on t
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 8:00pm PST
obama's position. >> i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for programs. he gets to cut the military, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> let's take the cynicism out of that, let's ask the question, is there in fact some benefit to going over the cliff? >> i think that there is. i don't think that the president does want to go over the cliff. i think he's made it extremely clear that he doesn't. and that's because he -- the president is not that much of a risk taker, he would rather come to a deal. he's eager to come to a deal. i don't think he's kidding, hen watts a big deal. he just doesn't have a partner on the other side. he's right and republicans know he's right. if you go over the cliff at this point tax rates go up, on dividends, capital gains and estate taxes go up. republicans want them down, they have to actively push to force them down. democrats only have to lower them for some elements of the population, certainly, the politic
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 4:00pm PST
government agency, very hopeful that the hurricane gets near tampa. obama is sending in fema in advance. in tampa, a bunch of rvs and stuff making it look like a disaster area before the hurricane even hits there. >> what caused the idea of a floating tax increase? it's about the need to beef up the military personnel in case civil war breaks out. here's judge hedd on that one. >> i'm thinking worst case scenario, civil civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war, maybe. we're talking lexington, concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy. he's going to send in u.n. troops. i'm going to stay in front of the armored personnel carriers and say you're not coming in here. the sheriff, i said are you going to back me? he said yeah, i'll back you. finally, here's iowa, u.s. congressman steve king with how president obama's mother managed to convince us all that her son was born in hawaii, not in kenya. >> i looked into that before he was sworn into the presidency. we found the microfiche of only two newspapers in hawaii, each of them had published the birth of barack obama. it would have bee
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Dec 31, 2012 8:00am PST
ceiling if you will over which your taxes would go up. $400,000 was the last obama offer that we heard of. $450,000. the new democratic offer that we're hearing of. the gop is seeking to get it up to $550,000 per and um for income. and remember plan b that blew up in the face of house republicans? a million dollars and above and that is the key question as we head into this. what will the house of representatives do if the senate were to reach this deal with joe biden today? >> as the senate convenes we see them gathering on the left-hand side of the screen right now, very quickly is it even physically possible, we have 13 hours to do this. >> reporter: sure. but in the senate in particular that's usually the place where things get clogged up. they can really do anything if they get everybody onboard. unanimous consent, not to bore everybody with procedure but they can basically wave their hands over this thing if no one stands up to object. the house, however, ironically, may be kind of a different story where they normally can jam things through. we'll see what happens there if this
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 3:00am PST
substance of an agreement. >> the mechanics, i mean, what we have -- on the obama side, you have an election that pretty much, you know, they took as a mandate, if you will, where, you know, the very issue of taxes was sort of legislative, and the americans basically said they agreed with the president, saying that taxes need to rise on the wealthy. and then you have the right wing of the republican party who won also by wide margins in many deeply conservative districts. and they think they have a mandate. so in a way, it's like the two mandates are canceling each other out. they each think that they are -- and that is why we're frozen. i don't know if it's been that way -- i don't know if the mechanics have been such that it has been so polarized to the point where it's been paralyzing. >> where they feel like they've each won. >> it doesn't baffle me, it sort of angers me is that the conservative republicans who won by overwhelming margins in their districts, the president's vote in state after state in the electoral college, it used to be in politics that there was more respect
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 12:00pm PST
the offer and only thing talking about is the payroll tax. that's already obama apparently gave up on it two weeks ago and gone no matter what and only the refundables. >> yep. >> you're talking about hugely important to the working poor but for the vast majority of the country, it's almost ir el vant. we are just -- >> they aren't tax credits and what you fill out when you fill out your taxes which won't happen until 2014. if they're in effect, it costs the average family an extra $3,400 or so but in the first week, two weeks, actually, costs the average family about $40 and that's the payroll tax and if it's in effect for a month, $80. that's what we're looking at here and doesn't account for the psychological damage that will happen when the stock market tanks, employers hire fewer people. >> consumer confidence. >> confidence goes further. i mean, those are the imponderables and will happen. we're already seeing it happen and, you know, this is damaging the economy right now. this is not theoretical in the future. but a lot of economists and forecasters are still saying if we c
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 11:00am PST
president obama for a big tax hike in the short term and then voting to cut taxes for most americans next month. for democrats, better than setting a rich man's cutoff in the million dollar range or extending tax cuts for all earners and slashing entitlem t entitlements to appease republicans. what does your gut tell you? do they want to go off the fiscal cliff? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that does it for us. i'm craig melvin in for tamron hall. "the cycle" up next and go skins. new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only takes a few twists and turns for those bright ideas to make the new year even brighter. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. start fresh and save with hdx 20 gallon totes, a special buy at just $5.88 a piece.
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Dec 24, 2012 7:00am PST
obama wants to raise taxes on. >> he was putting it at 400,000 senator, i want to move to the issue of guns. we heard what ray lapierre said earlier. he was singling out one of your colleagues. i want you to listen to part of his interview. >> you could ban all diane fine stein, done whatever you said to. she had insure bean and columbine occurred. >> is the revival of that ban, is that going to pass? >> i think that's a phony piece of legislation. >> so dianne feinstein was brought up i think five times in that interview. do you think this line of attack is going to work for the n perform a, piling on california lawmaker, from that state? pinches i think we have to take up all the issues. they mass killings have to stop and we have to do everything we can. it will include looking at how many bullets do you need in a magazine in a semiautomatic weapon? i don't know, but i'd like all the hunters to come to the table as well as the people who live in cities who do not want guns and want gun controls. we had need a real dialogue, not just a one-sided one. we need to talk about xbox 360
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Dec 26, 2012 9:00pm PST
obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans is between democrats who love taxes, just want to tax everything. and republicans who totally grover norquist taxes, they hate them, that is not true. to a degree that kind of disturbs me, actually, the two parties mostly agree on keeping the bush tax cuts. up to $250,000 in income, which is a lot of income. republicans and democrats want to keep all the bush tax cuts. that's way more than 80% of all the bush tax cuts. they agree o
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Dec 30, 2012 5:00am PST
bling block is number one, what is the fresh hold be for the tax income? $250,000 which obama originally proposed? $400,000 which he supposedly offered in a revised offer a week ago? and then, of course, the status of the sequester. we have $1.2 trillion in cuts over ten years, half from defense and half from nondefense discretionary spending. is there any indication if there's a deal today what they're talking about in terms of those two issues? >> we're reading tea leaves but we can say that on saturday there were the most senior-level staffers who were doing the nitty-gritty negotiations. we're told paper was exchanged back and forth meaning proposals being outlined and going back and forth with details. we're told the sticking points we'lly do center around that income threshold. where would you set a new tax level awhich everyone would pay higher taxes? how much income could you protect for the majority of americans? 250 is the number the president started with. as you point out he had withdrawn his earlier offer of $400,000 as the income threshold and ali al haidaris say
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 2:30am PST
federal spending cuts begin to kick in. the payroll tax holiday enacted under president obama will expire. the alternative minimum tax kicks in and several tax deductions will also expire. nbc's danielle leigh is on capitol hill with the latest on the negotiation. danielle, what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning. there's been progress and at 11:00 a.m. this morning the senate is going to get back to work. when they do they will not have a lot of time to come up with a deal to avoid those spending cuts and tax increase. both sides are still divided but just before calling it quits yesterday democratic leader harry reid said he hoped to have an announcement in the morning when the senate gets back network. where are they divided? they are divided at what salary taxes should increase but there was progress on taxes for the wealthiest of americans and avoiding the inheritance increases and they are grateful that republicans have given up on demands for cuts to social security at least for now. now this progress has not come easy. democrats have accused republicans of being too su
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 5:00pm PST
. now, president obama, taking real will a tough line on that issue of taxes, it's the big sticking point, has been all along and past negotiations, of course president obama has been criticized by democrats who say that he's given in too quickly on the issue of taxes. of course he campaigned on the issue of raising taxes on wealthier americans. so this time he's not backing down. so these negotiations have really been centered, to some extent, on that issue of taxes. the president really using his bully pulpit to try to pressure congress, congressional republicans, making a number of public appearances, include, of course, during that exclusive interview on "meet the press" today when he said that republicans are to blame for this fiscal cliff stalemate. chris? >> kristin welker, thanks to you and thanks to nbc's kelly o'donnell on the hill as well. more ahead this hour as we continue to cover the ongoing negotiations on the hill. why a small deal now would set up a big fight later. more on secretary of state hillary clinton who has been hospitalize tonight with a blood clot. msnbc
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Dec 26, 2012 12:00pm PST
vote for any kind of a tax increase under a million dollars. they wouldn't support that. obama can come to them and say here's the tax cut for all income, $250,000 less. are you for or against it. that's an incentive for them to wait. >> the democrats still feel like they have a lot of leverage politically and strategy-wise and going into the new year is not that bad for democrats. it's bad for real americans. let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and the christmas bills are due, the average working class family will have their paycheck drop not 2% but closer to 5%. democrats see it as leverage, but it hurts real people for the short-term. >> when you talk about it, absolutely. if we go over the cliff without changing anything, this will be the end of unemployment benefits for more than two million americans. people who cannot wait a couple of months to get the money back and don't have the safety net. this is a very serious situation for some americans. on t
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Dec 28, 2012 2:00am PST
. . >>> right now on first look -- d-day for president obama and congressional leaders. automatic tax cuts and smaller paychecks hang in the balance. american military hero, four-star general known as stormin' norman schwarzkopf has died. >>> a fiscal milk cliff is looming. bears over the bruins in the holiday bowl. >>> good morning, even as the finger pointing continues on capitol hill this morning, new hope on a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. president obama will be meeting with congressional leaders later today. danielle leigh joins us. >> that meeting in many ways a last opportunity for the president and congressional leaders to reach a deal and get something done before this year is over. if this meeting is unsuccessful it could seal this country's fate, as some developments yesterday. house members no longer on stand by. ready to come back sunday. to take a vote. when these tax cuts expire just about every worker is going to see their paycheck reduced. it's going to eliminate unemployment extensions and initiate spending cuts across the board. >> how will people see this in th
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Dec 27, 2012 3:00pm PST
with the fact that president obama was reelected to raise taxes on the top 2% and speaker boehner and the republicans can't get their hands around their caucus, then the blame is on them. >> jarret, what do you think about all of this? you deal with the policy. you deal with the numbers. there has been some offers from the president, even to the chagrin of hi base. how do you make where we are? >> well, listening to the three of you and your introduction, i'm just struck a real low point in american politics over a period when there's been pretty good kovcompetition for the low of the low points. i'm also really kind of moved by the really political malpractice going on. we have an economic recovery on going. >> by the way, you don't really hear people talking about the unemployment rate. you're working to build on the momentum of this recovery. help them prove it so american households can get ahead on their own. through working hard. not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do
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